http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/ This is an XML content feed of; Photography Tips Forums : Wildlife and nature : Iona Birds Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:20:29 +0000 Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:59:53 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.65 360 www.photography-tips-forum.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2900 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/custom/karl-taylor-logo_white.jpg http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/ http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13802#13802 Author: pocoboR
Subject: 2900
Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 11:59am

Hi Craig

After reading your comments again I would just like to point out a couple of things.

I do have an understanding of the rule of thirds but as we all know this is merely a guide line. This rule originated from the art world and crossed over to photography. If it is your preference to follow the rule of thirds rigidly then you may well be restricting your own creativity.

Clearly the rule of thirds is subjective to what you are shooting. The comment you made may insinuate I do not know what I am doing. This rule of thirds comment is good for beginners to give them an understanding of composition, but as we develop our understanding of composition we work within and out with the rules, as we know when to apply them.

If you are saying all the above images should be composed with the rule of thirds then that is your opinion, but my own creative composition says otherwise. You only commented on the one image and have not replied to the updated image with the rule of thirds applied.

The updated image does not work as there is too much of the background out of focus and you are drawn away from the subject trying to make sense of it when you should be drawn in to look at the bird.

The original works from the fact there is a band of focus drawing you toward the bird with the out of focus areas being of secondary importance as it should be. Naturally you look from the outside in. The colours of the bird blend with its surrounding and the focused area helps to make it stand out.

I look forward to your constructive response to all the images I posted above.

All other comments from forum members are also welcome.

Regards
Dean]]> Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:59:53 +0000 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13802#13802 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13725#13725 Author: pocoboR
Subject: 2900
Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 12:17pm

Hi Craig

Thanks for the comment. I did not think when I was cropping the original imgage and therefore the rule of thirds was thrown out the window
The bird is a Ringed Pluver, they are very skittish. It took me ages to get as close as I did and my lens was still at 300mm.
I have also added another version of the image to the original post.

Regards
Dean
]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:17:45 +0000 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13725#13725 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13710#13710 Author: horizon
Subject: 2900
Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 10:51pm

G'day Dean,

Looks like you had a nice weekend there.

My suggestion is to understand the rule of thirds and if you cant compose the photo in the 1/3rd composition see if you can crop it that way. But the further you crop, the more noisey the image will become and the less sharp it will be.

For example, the bird among the stones, I'm not sure what bird it is (not familiar with birds from there, I assume it's a masked ?) but the bird is centered in the photo. If you unable to get close enough with just using the lens you had, you might need to stalk the subject to get a bit closer. As birds feel threatened by object larger than they are, you need to try make yourself as small as possible by crouching down and ever so slowly more towards the bird until you can get a better framing. If the bird takes up most of the frame, then thats perfectly ok, just try to get the birds eyes sharp as possible and on the top 1/3rd for composition.

Sometimes this is not possible though, due to the camera being tripod mounted and fired remotely. Then its a matter of trying to compose the shot during PP.

BTW, I do like the OOF areas behind and before the bird among the stones.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Craig

Edited by horizon - 22 Mar 2012 at 10:52pm]]> Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:51:10 +0000 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13710#13710 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13698#13698 Author: pocoboR
Subject: 2900
Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 3:51pm

Here are a few photgraphs taken at the weekend while on the Isle of Iona. My favourite is the Oyster Catchers over the waves.
Constructive critique is appreciated.









Ringed Pluver


Hope you enjoy
Dean

Edited by pocoboR - 23 Mar 2012 at 12:13pm]]> Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:51:43 +0000 http://www.photography-tips-forum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2900&PID=13698#13698